
If we today have such difficulty understanding the concept of the Trinity, that brings up an interesting question: Did the earliest Christians understand it? Did the apostles understand “three in one” while Jesus was alive? I doubt it. So when did the early Christians first understand the concept of three persons yet one God? If the apostles understood the Trinity at some point after the (alleged) resurrection of Jesus, and they or their close associates were the authors of the Synoptics as conservative Christians claim, it is odd that an explicit expression of the Trinity is nowhere to be found in those three gospels. Explicit statements that Jesus is God do occur in the Gospel of John, but again, no clear expression of the Trinity. The shocking fact is, the only explicit expression of three persons in one god in the entire New Testament occurs in the Johannine Comma in First John, a known scribal alteration (fraud) of the original text:
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. –First John 5: 7-8
Did the early Church not understand the doctrine of the Trinity until sometime in the second or even third century??
What I find even more odd is this: If the resurrected Jesus spent 40 days with his disciples, teaching them “all things”, wouldn’t you think he would have clearly and in detail explained the concept of the Trinity to his monotheistic Jewish followers? One would assume he did. But if he did, why did no one write this down?? If the men who wrote the Gospels of Matthew, John, and maybe even Mark were present with Jesus after the resurrection learning “all things” for 40 days, why didn’t they write down Jesus’ own statements on this core Christian doctrine?? Very, very odd.
Would it be reasonable to assume that if an unbiased observer looked at this evidence, he or she might conclude that the idea that Jesus was part of a triune deity did not exist in the beginning of the Christian movement? That this concept evolved over several centuries? That is was not an original apostolic teaching?
But maybe I am just overly skeptical…
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This really is a non-issue because they had no need to focus upon the inherent nature of God. His nature is well defined within the OT.
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My bet is that Peter, James, and John would roll over in their graves if they knew that later generations of Christians would claim that Jesus and Yahweh were one and the same god.
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Gary, you’re an awesome apologist of the true God🤣. Many Christians we don’t believe in the trinity either. It’s simply not in the Bible.
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Gary, I hope you don’t mind … from my book:
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Thanks, Nan. Very interesting. I bet that the original Christians would be shocked to learn that later Christians taught that their God was three persons in one.
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When I was in university I took a few summer sessions that were three weeks each, and about 4 or 5 hours a day, five days a week, if I remember correctly. That was one course.
When I think of all the material the professor packed in, it’s head scratching that 40 days of Jesus’ teaching the disciples didn’t result in them knowing much, or at least revealing what they learned. 40 days of instruction, even if only, say, one hour per day, should still be enough to clear up what would later become major problems and disputes in Christianity.
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Yes, either the disciples were complete morons with very low IQs or the Jesus Story is full of holes.
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