
Ian Paul, conservative Anglican theologian and blogger:
Gary, you have mentioned ‘scholarly consensus’ previously. But you need to realise that theology and biblical studies are not like physics or other hard sciences. A consensus doesn’t often exist, and even if there is a majority view, it means nothing in terms of any sense of objective truth. The discipline as it is practiced is much more like eg English Literature. Just because the consensus ‘view’ is post-structuralism, it does not mean that this is the only or right or even best way to read a text.
Many academic approaches to biblical studies are deeply embedded in philosophical presuppositions, which are not made explicit, not examined, and not challenged. The main one of this is a programmatic assumption of anti-supernaturalism. The result is that many ‘mainstream’ theories are completely circular. The position they end up in is not much more than a reflection of the assumptions made at the beginning. Or, as they say in computing, garbage in, garbage out.
Gary: It is certainly possible that there is an anti-supernatural bias among liberal Protestant scholars and certainly among atheist/agnostic scholars. And if these were the only scholars who favored the non-eyewitness authorship of the Gospels, I too would be suspicious of their position. But that is not the case. A very large number of Christian NT scholars who very much believe in the supernatural also doubt the eyewitness/associate of eyewitness authorship of the Gospels. Who is this group: Roman Catholic scholars! Here is a quote from the website of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops on the authorship of the Gospel of Matthew:
–The questions of authorship, sources, and the time of composition of this gospel [Matthew] have received many answers, none of which can claim more than a greater or lesser degree of probability. The one now favored by the majority of scholars is the following.
The ancient tradition that the author was the disciple and apostle of Jesus named Matthew (see Mt 10:3) is untenable because the gospel is based, in large part, on the Gospel according to Mark (almost all the verses of that gospel have been utilized in this), and it is hardly likely that a companion of Jesus would have followed so extensively an account that came from one who admittedly never had such an association rather than rely on his own memories. The attribution of the gospel to the disciple Matthew may have been due to his having been responsible for some of the traditions found in it, but that is far from certain.–
When I have pointed out this fact to other conservative Christian apologists, their response has been “Roman Catholic scholars are biased against the supernatural”.
Preposterous!
The idea that Roman Catholic bishops and Roman Catholic scholars have a bias against the supernatural is outrageous. Where is the evidence for this preposterous claim?
So claiming that the majority scholarly position on the authorship of the Gospels is due to a bias is not accurate. One must explain why such a large percentage of scholars who do believe in the supernatural still doubt the eyewitness authorship of these ancient Christian texts.
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Yeah. Bias is in us all, which taints the well of discussions for most. What’s reliable is God Himself. That’s why He inspired it to written what is stated in 1 John 2:26-27. We are therefore not left to having to go with the flow, but rather to have the truth of all things given to us by whatever means the Spirit chooses.
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How do you know that the Christian god is reliable?
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I don’t know what a “Christian God” is. There are many groups out there who claim to be “Christian,” and with many differing gods that those different groups claim to believe in, many of which are man-made gods that fit their distinctive desires for what they think their god should resemble.
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How do you know that your god is reliable?
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Possibly the same you do yours.
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I don’t have a god. I believe our creator, if we had one, was very probably mortal.
So how do you know that your god is reliable? Your feelings and personal experiences of alleged miracles performed by him?
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IF we had a creator? That sounds like you still think there’s a possibility all this vast complexity somehow arose from mere chance and time? Which is it?
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If you think you know for certainty the origin of our universe, then you know more than all the experts combined because not one single scientific expert says that he (or she) KNOWS as fact the origin of the universe.
Your obfuscation is ample evidence that the evidence for your god is so poor that it is not worth even your time to discuss it.
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Many of the so-called “experts” claim it come from nothing, while others claim it came from a “big bang,” neither of which was ever observed nor tested. Who are those “experts” you’re referring to? If we’re going to talk about obfuscation, let’s talk about yours…you failed to answer my questions meant for clarifications, and this is what you offer? Seriously?
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I’ve got to think there are Muslim scholars who specialize in the relationship between Islam and Christianity, such that they are aware of the arguments for the resurrection and the authorship of the Gospels. With no bias against the supernatural, any Muslim scholars in this category should be converting. Anyone ever hear of this happening? The only anecdotal stories I’ve heard are just non scholarly Muslims converting because they had a dream or vision of Jesus, or some such thing.
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Good point. Conservative Christians will say that Muslims have a bias against Christianity so their opinions can be ignored.
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And ultimately, the noetic effects of sin mean everyone who is not a TRUE Christian is biased against Christianity. But how could anyone become a Christian if biased against it? Surely not through their own works and intellect. KAPOW! Calvinism strikes again!
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