What is the Solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict?

Israel-Palestine: There Is No Two-State Solution

I had always assumed that if the Israelis were to agree to return the entire West Bank and Gaza that the Palestinians would accept this offer and peace in the Middle East would finally be achieved.

Boy was I wrong!

Lately, I have been watching Youtube videos on this subject from both the Israeli and Palestinian perspectives. This is what I have learned:

Israel has offered to return over 90% of the West Bank and Gaza and the Palestinians have refused. The Palestinians want all the land—no, not just 100% of the West Bank and Gaza strip—but every square inch from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea! After all, they say, they and their ancestors have owned this land for hundreds of years. The British had no right to give away their land to the Jews. The Palestinian Arabs never agreed to the British partition.

I also learned that many Jewish settlers and right-wing Israelis believe that every square inch of the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea belongs to them and they see nothing wrong with establishing settlement after settlement on Arab occupied land even if it means displacing Arabs from their homes. They want the Arabs out! After all, their ancestors owned the land 2,000 years ago.

Who is right?

I would say, both are right. Both sides have legitimate claims to the land. So who should get it?

Here is my suggestion: The international community must impose a solution; not a perfect solution but a fair solution. After viewing the intensity of the passions and beliefs on both sides (in particular, the religious passions and beliefs), I believe that this conflict will never be resolved if left to the two warring parties. And only if the United States applies its full weight and support to this imposed solution would it work.

That’s my two cents. What’s yours?

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39 thoughts on “What is the Solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict?

  1. Those people living along the West Bank are mostly Egyptians. The MYTH of there being any such thing as “Palestinians” is pure CRAP! There are no more Philistines living that anyone knows of. Egyptians are not Palestinians.

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  2. The U.S. should NOT be the one to settle this. This country is far too influenced by its religious leaders … and nearly all Christian faiths support Israel based on BIBLICAL history.

    IMO, to reach any kind of agreement, only neutral parties should be involved so the (secular) history can be reviewed in order to offer/provide an unbiased –and hopefully fair– solution.

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    1. Yes. You beat me to it. I was going to bring up the idea of US being a poor choice to mediate because of the heavy political influence of religious groups who are so pro Israel.

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      1. Maybe the US should not be part of the committee or panel that divides the land, but without US involvement in enforcing the final decision, it will not succeed.

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    2. I disagree Nan. The U.S. is absolutely a major part of the problem by the mere fact that for over 70-years the U.S.A. have supplied the occupying Israelis with tons of military support, equipment, and covert aid. See my comment down below Ma’am. 🙂 ❤️

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  3. I don’t have an answer, but it is interesting to observe the changing dynamics occurring vis-a-vis the Sunni/Shia situation, with some Sunni states like Saudi Arabia getting more friendly with Israel due to the aggressive nature of of Shia states like Iran who seems to have started a proxy war on the Saudi’s doorstep in Yemen. From the little bit I’ve read it seems more Sunni’s are willing to be less antagonistic to Israel thanks to increasing Shia aggressiveness and Shia sponsored Hezbollah type groups, and perhaps be willing to compromise on the Palestinian question, even if the Palestinians – or at least the Palestinian leadership – are not.

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  4. One idea I have is this: Two of the holiest sites in Judaism and Islam are the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and the grave of Abraham (and others) in Hebron. Each side should be asked their preference of sites, the other site going to the other side. If the sides cannot agree on this issue, the decision would be made by flipping a coin.

    Very touch choices that neither side will be willing to decide themselves.

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  5. Since 1947-48 the Israeli people, its government, and its “occupying nation” has never had any legitimacy for invading and occupying the southwestern Levant. Period. Not one iota. The only PERMANENT solution for peace is for the Israelis, government, and nation to dissolve and exit to the satisfaction of the rest of the other nations of the Levant.

    As it was apparently so easy and so righteous for the victorious Allied nations of WW2 over the Axis nations and to arrogantly (and ruthlessly) create and build this perpetual powder-keg around Jerusalem and Gaza in 1947 purely from a Western Christian and Jewish political framework, canceling any value or human rights Palestinian-Arabs had then as if they were the inferior races/cultures, then the same Western nations can easily and righteously UNDO, UNTANGLE the complete cluster-f*ck they’ve made for over the last 74+ years! And if I may Gary…

    If anyone is interested in my exhaustive reasons why the nation of Israel and occupying Israelis do NOT belong there, never did, then read my April 2016 3-part series: The Circus of Recycling.

    https://professortaboo.com/2016/04/01/the-circus-of-recycling-part-i/

    Thanks Gary. And your post here touches only the tip of the huge iceberg that 99% of Westerners, particularly Americans, do not know at all the full historical context of that region which actually began during the end of WW1. You touched on it here:

    The Palestinian Arabs never agreed to the British partition.

    That window of history began at the end of the Ottoman Empire and with the Balfour Declaration. Bottom-line, the perpetual problems of Jerusalem, Gaza, “occupying Israel” was all created by the victorious nations of WW1 and WW2 and the violent Age of Global Imperialism. Therefore, I completely disagree with Nan above. The U.S. was certainly a major player in both World Wars and the creation of an illegal invading/occupying nation. And by default Accessory to human rights violations for at least 74-yeaars.

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    1. I’m not a history buff, PT, so I’ll have to take your word for it.

      However, actual historical events aside and just using Bible history as a guideline, I still say the U.S. has bent over backwards for the Israelites and would continue to do so in any division of land and rights.

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      1. Yes, because America’s misguided popular notion that it is a “Christian™” nation with by default a significant Jewish connection, the Zionist Israelis played heavily on that sympathy in the U.S. at the end of WW1 and thereafter. Still do today and that sympathy is usually translated in $$$$$ and military goods and support against Muslim countries, often misguided… sadly.

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    2. I disagree. The Jewish people deserve a homeland. Christianity and Islam have made them convenient scape goats. They will never be completely safe living in nations as a minority. What should have been done in 1948 is to have bought out the Arab property owners in a form of eminent domain.

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      1. As do/did the Native American Indians, reparations at the very least like the African-Americans in Tulsa, OK, etc, etc, et al. BUT… when does modern civilized peoples and nations stop trying to reverse history? Granted that is a very tricky, daunting task, HOWEVER, that does not mean never do anything and worse indifferently and arrogantly ignore a peoples extreme suffering or genocide—which is exactly what the Palestinians have been rightly fighting for, fighting back. In the case of modern Israel, they have no legitimacy being there. None. According to their own history they came from Egypt. They should try to go there according to that logic. Along the same lines, the Catholic and Protestant Christians deserve their own theocratic nations too. But where should that be?

        The major problem with the Levant is that religions have been politicized. We know full well here in the U.S. how horrible that goes, don’t we? 😉

        I encourage you Gary to read my 3-part series I mentioned, if you have time. You might change your mind.

        With respect & regards Sir.

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      2. “The Jewish people deserve a homeland.”

        Yes, the Jewish people do deserve a homeland. I would have put right in the middle of Germany, to serve as a constant reminder of what was allowed to happen.

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        1. Yes, the Germans would have deserved that just as American Southerners deserved for the Union to have confiscated a big chunk of territory from the southern states for a new nation of African-Americans.

          I believe that Palestine was the right choice. It is the ancestral homeland of Jews, however, the land should have been purchased and every Palestinian Arab made a millionaire in the process. People who are evicted from their land using eminent domain are usually not happy but as long as they have been justly compensated, that is the way things are.

          I do not believe that the Jews should be given all of ancient Judea, Samaria, and Galilee, nor should they receive all their “holy sites”. Both sides should equally suffer and gain in the deal.

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        2. Yes, or give them Bavaria and Franconia, as Munich and Nuremberg were the cultural and spiritual heartlands of the N..zi’s. That would be some good payback. Although being landlocked makes it hard for allies to help if they are not next door. That was partly Poland’s problem in WW2 – almost impossible for Britain and France to help them directly and quickly when Germany attacked.

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          1. Interesting side note: the Poles did not expect the French to come to Poland to help them. They expected their French allies to invade western Germany to take some pressure off of them and squeeze the Germans on two fronts. It took the French two weeks to attempt a weak invasion of western Germany. I’m not sure what the Poles expected from the British, but I doubt it was for them to do nothing.

            I’ve always wondered why the British bothered to make an alliance with the Poles (knowing that if Germany and Poland ever went to war it would drag Britain into war with Germany) if the British never intended to help the Poles if they were attacked.

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            1. A British historian whose youtube channel I’ve followed for several years put out an interesting 10 minute video last year of the French army’s invasion of Germany at the beginning of the war and their success and occupation of German towns and regions. It’s a topic that usually doesn’t come up in most documentaries or overviews of the war – probably because in the end it made no difference.

              But had the Soviets not invaded Poland from the east and ended Poland’s existence, the Poles probably would have been able to fight the Germans in the west for a far bit longer, giving the Brits and France an opportunity to procede with a planned later followup to the French initial success.

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        3. 😄 Herald, that point is well taken for the sake of a nagging “reminder.” 👍🏼

          However, given how many different, opposing, exclusive, elitist religions there are in the world today and from the past—all of which have very suspect verifiable histories—where would you suppose to put all of them with their own exclusive populations? And how “exclusive” should those people be? Do they wear a symbol when out in public on their arm or forehead designating what exactly they follow ala the Star of David, the Angel Moroni, the Nine Pointed Star, any of the Native American religions or spirits, Wheel of Dharma, Triskelion, a Star & Crescent, Green Islamic calligraphy, the Sigil of Baphomet, the Khanda, Taiijitu, etc, etc, et al? Essentially these religions are a lot less like political governing and tangible laws… and primarily mental concepts, philosophies, with much liberal license to poly-interpretations geographically and culturally based.

          Finally, why do the Jews deserve a specific bordered-off homeland more than any other world religions found today? To be fair, if you do it for one or two religion’s Followers—for whatever their elitist reasons to exist geographically—then do it for ALL of the world’s religious. Dear god! What a never-ending quagmire that would be! I wager being religiously and geographically fair along those lines would most certainly ignite wars where EVERYONE loses, even us Secularists. 😉

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          1. I think his point was related to what the Germans did to the Jewish people — and not so much that they deserve a place of their own over and above any other religion. JMO.

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          2. As portrayed by our western media over the years, it seems like everyone in the Middle East hates the Kurds, and they seemed to have suffered a lot, so maybe they deserve a homeland as well.

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            1. Excellent point Epicurus. That is the never-ending hate, exclusivism, elitism, discrimination, racism, violelnce, etc, et al, that I am referring to by the majority of all the world’s religious and religious fanatics. Connecting the dots and patterns I think it isn’t rocket science to see CLEARLY what the REAL core of the problem has been for well over 2-3 millenia, yes? 😉

              Three cheers for collaborative, patient, tolerant, intelligent, compassionate Humanist Secularists in the world!! Hip hip… 😁

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      3. “ They will never be completely safe living in nations as a minority. ”

        When I was on vacation in Central Europe in 2015, we were in the Czech Republic, and in one museum some information sheets were talking about Jewish history there, and saying that the govt. had lately been taking surveys and setting up registries ( or something like that) to help meet the needs of minorities, including Jews. But at that point there hadn’t been many Jews registering. The implication was that while the govt may have had the best intentions, minorities and particularly Jews know that things can go down hill quickly – a different govt or a change in public mood or economy can create an anti semitic environment quickly, so best not to out yourself on an official list even if things currently seem ok.

        Sure enough, there seems to be an increase in anti semitism in the last few years in some parts of Europe and North America.

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  6. As an aside, I recently watched this 20 minute youtube documentary set in London on Jews who are against Israel existing for religious reasons- basically they think Jews are suppose to remain in exile without a homeland until the Messiah comes. They take a lot heat from fellow Jews because they burn the flag, chum it up with Palestinian groups, etc. Probably doesn’t help that they dress in the ultra orthdox fashion and have all kinds of hangups about getting too near women.

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  7. Epicurus, great point. And like ALL the Abrahamic religions the long, LONG established history of Sectarianism—i.e. neverending denominations & dissent among themselves, even violence—speaks volumes to the incomprehensible unreliability of their “holy scriptures” and convoluted histories. One thing they all do have in common is elitism, indignation, and even hate for those different or not identical to themselves. What a complete cluster-f*ck they all are. 😄

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  8. Thinking it’s ok to comment because this doesn’t involve a theological discussion

    I feel like as long as the Palestinians have the view that Israel doesn’t have a right to exist and want to wipe the country from the face of the earth, there will never be peace in the middle east. How could there be? No one can impose it from the outside.

    Granted, Israel is not without any fault, but I think probably they have just about the most humane military on the face of the earth. But, what can they do when Hamas is shooting rockets into the country? It’s just sad that there have to be any civilian casualties at all. But, unfortunately, the terrorists have no problem putting innocent civilians in harm’s way, sometimes deliberately.

    I wonder what our country would do under these difficult circumstances. I have a pretty strong sense that we would be exercising less restraint than Israel. This has sadly been going on for decades.

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    1. If someone took your land, drove you out of your home, occupied your country, and treated you as inferior in value to them, you might eventually behave like the occupied French, Poles, and Dutch: you would conduct terrorists attacks on your occupiers.

      I believe the Jews have a right to a homeland and I believe that Palestine is the correct choice. But the Two State Solution must be imposed by the International Community. The two warring parties will never agree to a division of the land. Neither side will be happy with the land division, but with enough international pressure and incentives ($$$$$$), they will eventually learn to live with it.

      The British owned Palestine pre-1948. By international law, they had the right to divide it up as they pleased. Morally and ethically, they should have done it in a more fair way to the Palestinian Arabs: compensate them financially for confiscated land.

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  9. Umm, you’re wrong on this one, Gary. A small minority of Palestinians may want “from the river to the sea.” The vast majority have never asked for that. The 1948-67 boundaries, PLUS land within pre-1967 Israel owned by Palestinians and confiscated from them in various ways, would be perfectly acceptable.

    I also suggest you look up things like the King David Hotel bombing. Begin and other old Israeli leaders were terrorists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

    Part one of multiple posts.

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    1. It may be a minority position but it is not a fringe position. If it were only a fringe position, Arafat would have accepted Israel’s offer of 94% of the West Bank in exchange for a Palestinian state.

      All “freedom fighters”, including the Americans who started the Revolutionary War, are seen as terrorists by the government they are trying to overthrow.

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    1. Very true, but I don’t believe this ever happened. It is an ancient folk tale. Modern mainstream Jews don’t believe it is historical either. Do a google search of the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, for evidence on this issue.

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      1. I didn’t say it was historical either. Just said the story is recorded. Idea being that Zionists ain’t so pure based on Jewish-Israelite legendary history. (Oh, when it pops up on Google, I read Ha’aretz, Jerusalem Post and others. See my “fifth” below.)

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    1. I don’t doubt it. That is why the Two State Solution must be imposed by the international community. I don’t see either side as the “good guys” or the “bad guys”. I can understand the position of both. That is why the solution must be imposed from the outside.

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    1. I’m not interested in getting into a back and forth on this issue, but I believe it is very important for me to say this: Trust majority expert opinion! Let me repeat that: Trust majority expert opinion! One last time: Trust majority expert opinion!

      I do not have the time to thoroughly investigate every claim made on the internet. But what I can do is do a quick search of reliable sources to see what the majority of experts say about a particular subject. And on the matter of the origin of Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Persian Jews, the majority of experts believe that they share a lot of DNA from common ancestors in the Levant.

      Educated people do not have the time to investigate every conspiracy theory on the planet. The claim that modern “Zionists” are not real Jews, is a conspiracy theory. The majority of experts say that this claim is false. Trust majority expert opinion! I encourage all my readers to follow that advice. Conspiracy theorists will tell you that they have the inside scoop; that the experts have conspired to conceal the truth from you; that you are being a fool for not investigating this or that issue yourself. While it is certainly true that sometimes the majority of experts is wrong, the overwhelming majority of the time the majority is right. I choose to trust majority expert opinion. A world in which every individual is the final authority on all issues (the world of conspiracy theorists) is a world in which I would not want to live.

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