Was Jesus the First Man-God to Ascend into the Clouds and Make Post-Mortem Appearances? No. Not According to the Romans.

Romulus and Remus | Story, Myth, Definition, Statue, & Facts | Britannica

Such were the principal achievements of the reign of Romulus, at home and in the field, nor is any of them incompatible with the belief in his divine origin and the divinity which was ascribed to the king after his death, whether one considers his spirit in recovering the kingdom of his ancestors, or his wisdom in founding the City and in strengthening it by warlike and peaceful measures. For it was to him, assuredly, that Rome owed the vigor which enabled her to enjoy an untroubled peace for the next forty years. Nevertheless, he was more liked by the commons than by the senate, and was preeminently dear to the hearts of his soldiers. Of these he had three hundred for a bodyguard, to whom he gave the name of Celeres, and kept them by him, not only in war, but also in time of peace

When these immortal deeds had been done, as the king was holding a muster in the Campus Martius, near the swamp of Capra, for the purpose of reviewing the army, suddenly a storm came up, with loud claps of thunder, and enveloped him in a cloud so thick as to hide him from the sight of the assembly; and from that moment Romulus was no more on earth. The Roman soldiers at length recovered from their panic, when this hour of wild confusion had been succeeded by a sunny calm; but when they saw that the royal seat was empty, although they readily believed the assertion of the senators, who had been standing next to Romulus, that he had been caught up on high in the blast, they nevertheless remained for some time sorrowful and silent, as if filled with the fear of orphanhood.

Then, when a few men had taken the initiative, they all with one accord hailed Romulus as a god and a god’s son, the King and Father of the Roman City, and with prayers besought his favor that he would graciously be pleased forever to protect his children. There were some, I believe, even then who secretly asserted that the king had been rent in pieces by the hands of the senators, for this rumor, too, got abroad, but in very obscure terms; the other version obtained currency, owing to men’s admiration for the hero and the intensity of their panic. And the shrewd device of one man is also said to have gained new credit for the story.

This was Proculus Julius, who, when the people were distracted with the loss of their king and in no friendly mood towards the senate, being, as tradition tells, weighty in council, were the matter never so important, addressed the assembly as follows: “Quirites, the Father of this City, Romulus, descended suddenly from the sky at dawn this morning and appeared to me. Covered with confusion, I stood reverently before him, praying that it might be vouchsafed me to look upon his face without sin. ‘Go,’ said he, ‘and declare to the Romans the will of Heaven that my Rome shall be the capital of the world; so let them cherish the art of war, and let them know and teach their children that no human strength can resist Roman arms.’ So saying,” he concluded, “Romulus departed on high.” It is wonderful what credence the people placed in that man’s tale, and how the grief for the loss of Romulus, which the plebeians and the army felt, was quieted by the assurance of his immortality.

–the Roman historian, Livy, Book 1, 15-16

Gary: What a sham! I had never read this account before.

If Christian Bible scholars know of this ancient Roman story and still believe in the historicity of the very similar ascension and post-mortem appearance stories told of Jesus of Nazareth, a man who lived seven centuries after Romulus, they should be ashamed of their gullibility, or, they should be ashamed of their lack of integrity for not telling Christians in the pews that the Jesus Story is a blatant plagiarism!






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6 thoughts on “Was Jesus the First Man-God to Ascend into the Clouds and Make Post-Mortem Appearances? No. Not According to the Romans.

  1. Truth be known, there is considerable plagiarism in the “Holy Book.” But of course to the True Christians™, such a statement comes straight from the horned guy!

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  2. That’s what I was told and believed back in my Christians days – the devil, partially knowing the future, duplicated various future Judeo Christian miracles in other religions in order to lessen the effect when the “real” event happened.

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    1. Oh the lengths “they” will go to make it all seem “real.” And I think you know the word that describes those that swallow it down (it starts with a “g”).


  3. Was Wilbur Wright the first person to fly with constructed wings?

    No, not according to Greek mythology. Icarus preceded Wilbur by a couple thousand years.

    In fact, there have been countless fanciful and mythological tales of somebody flying in some kind of
    craft or other for many centuries.

    So, clearly, that means we can consider that Wilbur’s flight was also myth, right?

    Same thing with space travel. There have been “space travel” stories going way back, all of them
    nothing more that fictions created by someone with active imaginations.

    Those, though, must surely mean that tales of Neil Armstrong on the moon must also be fiction.

    There might be 100 myths of ancient warriors riding giant beasts into battle, but that does not at all mean that the story of Hannibal using elephants in battle is therefore also a myth.

    Guys, just because something appeared in myth someplace, that does NOT mean that something very similar to the once-mythological thing didn’t happen at some point in real life. Submarines, human flight, nuclear power, solar power, space flight – you can go down a long list of things that first appeared in fiction or myth, but later, showed up in real life.

    I’m not saying this in any attempt to say that Jesus’ resurrection really happened. I’m saying this because this is a ridiculously fallacious logic that so many skeptics try to use: If something shows up in a myth someplace, then that therefore must mean that another report of something similar must also therefore be myth.

    Get less absurd. It’ll make you more credible.


    1. You are so full of bs, FT.

      The similarities between the two stories are too striking to just be coincidence. Christians like to claim that the Jesus Story must be true because it is so unique. Who would invent such a story??

      It was not unique! It is a tall tale based on a mixture of Jewish and Roman myths. A tall tale rejected by 99% of Jews for the last 2,000 years, but readily believed by a sizable number of gullible, (mostly) poor and uneducated Gentiles.


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