I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. —Jesus of Nazareth (Matthew 18.19).
And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith. –Jesus of Nazareth (Matthew 21.22).
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. –Jesus of Nazareth (Mark 11.24).
Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. –Jesus of Nazareth (John 14.13).
I say to you, whatever you ask from the Father, He will give it to you in My name. –Jesus of Nazareth (John 16.23).
Christian: [In regards to the above passages] 1) Did Jesus really say it? 2) Is there a standing qualifier someplace you are not looking at?
in John 16 he says: (John 16:1-4) The reason for Jesus’ warning: certain persecution.
“These things I have spoken to you, that you should not be made to stumble. They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them. And these things I did not say to you at the beginning, because I was with you.”
That is not consistent with saying ask anything and it will be done. Turns out that passage is not spoken to all believers but specifically to the Apostles about Jesus leaving. The thing about God will give them what they ask applies to the end time and perhaps to the millennial kingdom.
verse 22 “So with you: Now is your time of grief, but I will see you again and you will rejoice, and no one will take away your joy. 23 In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.”
Any time you throw out a bunch of verses without exegesis you over simplifying, We have to assume Jesus didn’t mean stuff like: Ok God, I ask for a million dollars to appear before me!
Gary: Jesus is (allegedly) quoted, by multiple Gospel authors, stating that if a believer asks for ANYTHING/WHATSOEVER in his name, he will do it. I realize that Christians have many different “harmonizations” (exegesis) to explain why Jesus didn’t mean to say what he clearly said, but to any neutral observer, that is BS.
It would be more credible to claim that Jesus never made these statements (what sane human being would?); that these statements were legendary; or were inventions of the Evangelists. But if we cannot trust the Gospel authors to correctly record very simple statements as these, why should we trust any statements in their work?
We have to assume Jesus didn’t mean stuff like, “Ok God, I ask for a million dollars to appear before me!”
Maybe. If we assume that Jesus didn’t really mean “anything” or “whatsoever” but meant “some things, when it is my will” that might be true. But why then say “anything” without qualifying it? That seems like something a snake oil salesman would do, not a perfect, just and loving god.
And what about the millions of devout Christians who request healing for themselves or others, and the healing never occurs? What is the excuse for Jesus not answering these prayers? “Not his will?” BS! And if “anything” is limited to something that is not greedy or selfish, praying that the starving children in Africa get some food seems to meet that criteria. But yet, 17,000 children under the age of five, each and every day, die of starvation. Why doesn’t Jesus answer these prayers???
I think there are only three options to explain these passages: Jesus was either misquoted, delusional, or lying.
And if Jesus was misquoted, our Bibles are not worth the paper they are printed on, except as fascinating examples of first century superstitious literature. They can in no way be trusted as historically reliable biographies in regards to the life, words, and deeds of Jesus of Nazareth.
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