How Can Any Follower of Jesus Vote For Donald Trump?

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Evaluating Trump’s Presidency

But here we are, four years later, and I think I’m going to vote for Trump. I cannot go into a long discussion about everything that follows, but when it comes to the Trump administration in terms of polices, here is my evaluation, both pros and cons. Obviously, this will not be comprehensive, but these are the things that stood out to me. This will be the only election we’ll be able to say, “Hindsight is 2020,” so here goes. First, the cons:

  • Much of Trump’s rhetoric and tweeting has been sophomoric at best and divisive and poisonous at worst. It has been positively un-presidential. That being said, I’ve felt that the rhetoric coming from the Democrats has been just as divisive and poisonous as well. Basically, I hate Trump’s rhetoric, but the Democrats are no better.
  • When it came to the issue of dealing with the border situation, I did not like his decision to separate children from their parents who crossed the border illegally. I fully acknowledge that the overall situation at the border and our immigration policy in general has been broken for years and without Congress getting a spine and actually tackling the problem, it was a lose-lose situation. But that move was not good. At least the administration backed off that decision when the country objected.
  • I really hate the soaring national debt–I don’t think either party has the guts to get that under control, though.

Now the pros:

  • Prison reform and the First Step Act, both of which began to rectify the mass incarceration of black men, which had been the result of the Crime Bill of 1994, the one, ironically, that Joe Biden had been instrumental in writing and passing.
  • Long-term funding for historically black colleges.
  • America has become energy independent, so we are not dependent on other countries for our energy.
  • Up until the Covid-19 crisis, record unemployment across the board, especially for minorities.
  • The median family income for middle-class families rose by $6,000 and worker wages began to increase for the first time in years.
  • He ended NAFTA and reworked the USMCA trade deal.
  • He confronted China’s cheating in trade and stealing of intellectual property.
  • He defeated the ISIS caliphate and killed its leader, Al-Baghdadi.
  • He killed the Iranian general and terrorist Soleimani.
  • The three SCOTUS picks he made are all well-qualified and outstanding justices. Regardless if one is upset over the circumstances of Amy Coney Barrett, I don’t think anyone can say she isn’t immensely qualified.
  • And oh, numerous Middle Eastern countries are signing peace treaties with Israel.

Regardless what one thinks of Trump himself, let’s admit it, any administration would be elated to be able to check all those off as accomplishments. Quite frankly, I have been legitimately shocked at the things this administration has gotten done. But I’m going to give credit to where credit is due.

…Trump, just like every other president, should be evaluated on his job performance. I did not like him at all in 2016 and was convinced he’d screw things up so much that he wouldn’t survive his first term. Although I still don’t like much of his rhetoric, the fact is, when it comes to policies and accomplishments, he has surprised me. That has not been the deciding factor, though, in my decision to vote for him this time. The deciding factor has more to do with what I’ve seen transpire with the Democrats and the mainstream media. To put it in the kindest terms, I have not been impressed…at all.

Gary:

By the standards of the Bible, Trump is a horrible human being. His worldview consists of one thing: “What is best for ME?” He is a prolific liar. He is dishonest. He is mean and abusive. He disrespects women at every turn. Would you want your child to emulate Donald Trump? Of course not.

“But he has done so much good”, you say.

But what about what he is doing to the institution of the presidency? He behaves like a dictator. He is destroying our intelligence services. He uses his attorney general as his own attorney. He cozies up to and praises brutal dictators. How would you feel if a Democrat did the same thing? You would be outraged! Admit it.

Joe Biden is not a member of the Radical Left. We moderate Democrats, who still represent the majority of the Democrat party, stopped the Radical Left from taking over the party. Joe Biden will govern as a centrist. He will not turn the country into Venezuela or some other socialist country.

No, Trump is not Stalin. But he IS a threat to our democratic values as a nation. Imagine what Trump will do to the institutions of government when he no longer has to worry about re-election. His dishonest, amoral behavior will be unchecked.

We Democrats gave the American people a moderate alternative to Trump. We did not give you Bernie Sanders. Biden is a compassionate, good man with a long history of consensus building and centrist policies. He will restore common decency to the presidency. He will attempt to heal the wounds of division not blatantly attempt to stoke division.

If you are a Christian, ask yourself this question: Who would Jesus vote for if he were an American citizen? Do you really believe he would vote for such an immoral, mean-spirited man as Trump?

For the sake of America and your children, vote Biden!

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49 thoughts on “How Can Any Follower of Jesus Vote For Donald Trump?

  1. The excerpt above is from Joel Anderson’s blog, if you hadn’t guessed. I got booted from his blog due to leaving the following comment:

    “Could you point me to the last time you posted about helping the poor and disenfranchised? Admit it: Like many evangelicals, you support Trump because he is anti-abortion. Dear evangelicals: Just how evil a candidate would you vote for as long as he or she is anti-abortion?? The good news is: Joe Biden is a centrist. He is not going to make abortion available on demand for any reason at any time during a pregnancy. He will keep the status quo. The majority of Americans do not want to make all abortions illegal. Don’t be a single issue voter! Save America from a demagogue and wannabe dictator!”

    Evangelicals like Anderson’s don’t give a rat’s ass about the poor and minorities. They only care about preserving white, Christian America, and if that means supporting a misogynistic, racist fascist, they’ll do it!

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    1. So predictable.
      (A) I am not an Evangelical.
      (B) My view on abortion is decidedly NOT like your typical conservative Evangelical.
      (C) You’re a lying, piece of **** and a horrible human being.

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      1. Says the guy who plans to vote for a racist, misogynist, and fascist.

        Shame on you.

        Jesus must be rolling over in his grave!

        (And that is not meant as an insult to Jesus, whom I deeply respect. I don’t believe Jesus ever claimed to be God, only God’s servant, the Messiah. I think he would be horrified and offended that people like you believe he was/is Yahweh the Creator.)

        BTW: You still think and act like an evangelical. A true Orthodox professor in biblical studies would not get as worked up as you do.

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          1. On your blog you claim you banned me for repeatedly reposting excerpts and comments from your blog. What normal, mature individual would do such a thing?? People repost all the time! You are being a big baby.

            You banned me because I revealed your hypocrisy: You used your blog to appeal for votes for Donald Trump because he allegedly helps the poor and minorities. I asked you for the last time you posted about the poor and minorities and this enraged you, since you obviously don’t post articles on these topics. You then claimed that these subjects are not the purpose of your blog, yet you have the time to post a series of articles encouraging your readers to vote for a racist, misogynistic fascist.

            You are a hypocrite.

            Jesus must be rolling over in his grave!

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              1. Grow up, Joel. Stop your whining! The future of our country is at stake. You and every other conservative Christian in the U.S. need to get down on your knees and ask yourself this question: “Would Jesus want me to vote for Donald J. Trump?”

                I would bet my mortgage what Jesus would say: “Hell no, don’t vote for that lying, cheating, narcissistic SOB!”

                Now, YOU get the hell off my blog!

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              2. You’re a sanctimonious and self-righteous con-artist and troll.
                Says the man who believes and teaches the ressurection of a narrative construct called Jesus of Nazareth.
                I LOVE it!

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              3. @ Joel
                I meant to ask you, Joel.
                On your blog you occasionally post comments under a pseudonym. The last one was Programming Nerd.
                Whar was the reason you did this?
                What was especially weird was that you answered yourself!

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                  1. This comment , for example.
                    Dear Dr. Anderson,

                    Your conversation with Gary and Ark are some of the most funniest and pure comedic gold that I have ever seen. It’s the end of the golden era xD

                    Yours Sincerely,
                    The Programming Nerd

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                    1. Well, I’m not free to comment; haven’t been for a long time, and now, neither is Gary, apparently!
                      I suppose this thing of censorship is catching among Christians who dislike any challenge to their faith?.
                      Don’t you feel in the least bit hypocritical that you are free to comment on my blog and especially Gary’s – like a troll even – with no fear of moderation at all?

                      Back to the topic at hand ….
                      If you click on the commenter’s name – The Programming Nerd – it directs back to your blog.

                      There’s probably a straightforward answer and I’m not that savvy on the mysterious ways of WordPress.
                      I’m presuming you probably know why, yes?

                      Oh, and also, when one clicks on your Gravitar, or your name, it links to a page that says you have deleted your blog. You might want to address this?

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                    2. Haha? What? What are you smoking? No, the Programming Nerd is another person who reads my blog and occassionally comments.

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    2. Gary, do you have any concerns though about complaints concerning Mr. Biden’s conduct around women? Of course there’s concern about Trump in this regard as well
      There’s also been concern raised about plagarism and other untruthful statements made by Mr. Biden. On top of that there’s this whole issue with Hunter Biden and China. I’m far from convinced that this is of no concern and simply due to Russian interference in the election. I’m also deeply troubled by concerns relating to Mr. Biden’s memory and mental acuity. I could be wrong, but I don’t think he will be our president for four years. I don’t think that Ms. Harris is a moderate. Do you? Well, truth be told there are personal problems and concerning issues with both of these gentleman. We can only make what we feel is the best choice possible. Since Mr Biden is our newly elected president he now has my support, but I have serious doubts and reservations. Only time will tell. Hoping and praying for the best.

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      1. I’m not Gary, but I’ll offer my two cents.

        I’m also deeply troubled by concerns relating to Mr. Biden’s memory and mental acuity

        Without a mental assessment it’s difficult to know what is a problem because of his stutter and what is actually some kind of mental deficiency. I don’t think the portrait of “sleepy Joe” is anything near accurate, and he seems pretty aware.

        Since Mr Biden is our newly elected president he now has my support, but I have serious doubts and reservations.

        So do I. I most certainly don’t have any high expectations for a Joe Biden Presidency. I do fully expect that it will be better than Trump, but that’s such a low bar that just about anyone should be able to achieve that. At the very least we shouldn’t see the continue elevation of one religious perspective over all others. We won’t have Betsy DeVos destroying the public education system in favor of private religious education. We won’t have Bill Barr as the Attorney General. We won’t have Jared and Ivanka doing, well, whatever the hell the claim they were doing. We’ll be replacing an inept, cleptocratic, administration with one that values science and experts.

        Aside from that, I expect it to be like what we got under the Obama administration. I worry that we’ll return to the days of drone-striking terrorists in foreign countries, along with an adinistration that forgets about American workers and maintaining the huge advantages of the capital class.

        Biden also has a huge mess to clean up from the previous administration, and if the Democrats don’t take the Senate I’m pretty sure that almost nothing will happen for the next few years as they simply try to undo the damage that has been done.

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        1. I’ve read reports that school choice does not destroy public education, but can act as an incentive for public schools to step up their game. It also seems to me a way that poor urban kids can get out of failing public schools and have a chance to receive a quality education like some of the children whose parents can afford to send their kiddos to higher-performing private schools.

          I actually once worked as a house parent at a private residential school for needy kids. Academically and socially our school made a tremendous and positive difference in the lives of these children. Our school was secular.

          I really haven’t seen this as a religious issue. I mean a bunch of secular humanists could get together and start a charter school as well.

          To me, anything that’s going to benefit children and families and give additional freedom and choice/diversity is a good thing. But, maybe I’m missing something here.

          I”m guessing the public school teacher unions are not thrilled about school choice. 🙂

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          1. I really haven’t seen this as a religious issue. I mean a bunch of secular humanists could get together and start a charter school as well.

            First, secular humanism isn’t a religion, at least not in an meaningful sense. Any secular humanist school is going to be secular.

            My problems with DeVos start with her desire to allow sectarian religious institutions to be recognized as charter school and having access to federal funds. Sure, it starts as Christian privilege, but what Christians seem to forget is that this opens the door to other sectarian schools, including ones that teach that women should only appear in public in a burqa, and should only appear in public when they have their guardian’s permission, access to public money. It’s a very dangerous precedent to set. If Christians can get public money for their religious education why shouldn’t Islamic schools? Do you really want your government deciding which religions are acceptable and which aren’t?

            Those on the far right tend to see privatized education not as a solution, but a business opportunity. I don’t see that privatizing education is going to solve any real societal problems. DeVos has argued for massive cuts to her department, all in an effort to gut and undermine public education. It’s a massive effort to create a problem that they claim private education is going to solve. This is how Republicans tend to operate when they want to privatize some aspect of the government: Work to undermine the system. Show that the undermined system is broken (yeah, you broke it). Claim that privatization is the best answer.

            There are districts that are really struggling, and moving kids into private education does nothing to solve that problem. If anything it only makes the problem worse because now they have one less student and almost all of the costs that they had before.

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            1. Umm, I can see some of your concerns, Herald. Thanks for sharing this. I think that I’m so strongly libertarian in my thinking that it’s good for me to consider the other side’s opinion as a balance. I homeschooled my own kids up to high school and loved it. There was so much freedom.

              I do think there are times when to introduce competition into a system can be a very good thing. If public schools have a total monopoly, where is the incentive to do better? In the area where my husband is from, the public school teachers make a huge salary, but the kid’s test scores are awful. It’s almost impossible to fire an incompetent teacher because of the strength of the union. Worse yet, teachers can get hired based on personal connections in the area rather than based on who appears the most qualified.

              But, as I say, I think you’ve raised some legitimate issues here as well to consider.

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  2. Gary,

    This document contains a set of Biden-Sanders Unity Task Force recommendations. This document is straight off of Joe Biden’s website. I can not understand how an objective person could read this set of policy proposals and conclude that this reflects “moderation” within the Democratic Party.

    Click to access UNITY-TASK-FORCE-RECOMMENDATIONS.pdf

    “We moderate Democrats, who still represent the majority of the Democrat party,… ” – Gary

    The Democratic Party of 2020 bears no resemblance whatsoever of being “moderate”. Bill Clinton was considered to be a “moderate”. Based upon how he governed, he would have no realistic chance of being nominated by this party today. Even James Carville expressed his disbelief earlier this year re. some of the proposed policies by Democrats.

    As an FYI, I am not voting for either candidate. Neither man is morally upstanding (imo). The two-party system is an abject failure (imo).

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    1. The party platform to created to appease everyone in the party. The presidential candidate is in no way obligated to follow the party platform.

      Biden has a long history as a centrist. He will govern as a centrist.

      By not voting, you are helping the fascists.

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      1. Bernie Sanders himself said he believes Joe Biden could be the most progressive president since F.D.R.

        https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/16/sanders_biden_can_become_the_most_progressive_president_since_fdr.html

        “By not voting, you are helping the fascists.” – Gary

        That is absurd. And, I do not believe Joe Biden has the mental capacity to actually serve 4 years. I believe Kamala Harris will ultimately replace him if he wins the election. Her voting record in the U.S. Senate clearly indicates she is more liberal than he is. I believe she was among the worst Democratic Party candidates for POTUS. She was reportedly polling around 3% among Democratic Party candidates when she ended her campaign in December of 2019. Elizabeth Warren was a far superior candidate than Kamala Harris (imo).

        The two-party system is a dismal failure.

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        1. I tend to agree with you on a couple of things: I have misgivings about Kamala — and the two-party system definitely has its drawbacks.

          At this point, there isn’t much we can do about Kamala (if Biden wins), but what do you suggest as regards replacing the two-party system?

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          1. I believe the only feasible solution is for citizens to push for establishing more political parties. That is not an easy task, but I don’t see another way. This is a pretty good article (imo) re. the hazards of what we have now:

            ‘America Is Now the Divided Republic the Framers Feared’
            https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/two-party-system-broke-constitution/604213/

            As bad as the two-party system has become, having one political party assume complete control in Washington, D.C. would be even worse (imo). I think a “Red Wave” or a “Blue Wave” would ultimately lead to rampant corruption if one party ever assumed complete control (and kept it). I do not think America would survive for very much longer if it comes to that.

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              1. Gary, you are a champion of free thought and freedom from religion, yet you seem to be dogmatic (re. politics rather than religion in this case). If I don’t vote (according to you), I am aligned with fascists. If I don’t vote (according to Trumpers), I am aligned with left-wing extremists. Really? So, I am either labelled a fascist or a left-wing extremist (or both) just for opting out of a broken system? Come on, man.

                I think the best solution in THIS election is a divided government. Established one-party rule (by either side) could inevitably lead to massive corruption and abuse of power. Imagine it. Corporations and special-interest groups could concentrate massive sums of money into one party and heavily lobby the politicians of that one party. Incumbents of that party could be nearly impossible to vote out of office. And, you could have nearly half of the country feel they had no voice in federal government at all. That would be an unmitigated disaster for democracy (imo). America would not survive in its current form very long (imo). The system is broken.

                Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I enjoy reading your blog.

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                1. If I don’t vote (according to you), I am aligned with fascists.

                  I said you were HELPING the fascists. I never said you were purposefully aligning with them.

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                  1. Okay. I am HELPING neither side. And, the system is broken. We need change.

                    Thanks again for the responses. I enjoy reading your articles.

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                    1. Any German citizen who did not vote in the 1932 German election for any of the democratic candidates helped the National Socialist Party (Nazis) come to power. Sometimes you must choose between two candidates you don’t like, but one is tolerable (you can hold your nose and vote for him or her) and one will send your country down the path of destruction.

                      VOTE FOR BIDEN!

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                    2. Alright, taking deep breaths and hoping and praying for the best. Saying the serenity prayer. Hugs. Hope you are well.

                      Becky. 🙂

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                  2. Hi, Gary, I realize I might be beating a dead horse here, but do you have any concern at all about the current platform of the democratic party? For instance, they seem to want once again to significantly raise the corporate tax rate higher than what companies pay in much of progressive Western Europe, as well as raise the minimum wage across the board to fifteen dollars an hour. This may seem good in the short term, but is it truly going to do good in the long term? I can see businesses simply hiring less, laying off workers, not expanding, maybe offshoring, etc..

                    On top of that, I feel that Trump was right in insisting that the nations of NATO pay their fair share for the defense of the allies. These progressive Western European countries that everyone so admires are able to offer expanded social services to their citizens in part because they can rely on the US for defense and don’t have to invest as much money into their own military. Trump was trying to address this inequity.

                    Changing gears, does a national mask mandate make a lot of sense, really? Shouldn’t this in large part depend on the concentration of the virus and the risk factors that are really there in each locality, whether it’s possible to socially distance, etc.?

                    There are areas in my state where the numbers are practically non-existent. I think these masks for many people have become a kind of political shibboleth really, beyond just a concern for public health. I see folks wearing masks outside where there is no one for yards and yards around. They are jogging down state game land trails with masks. It’s incredible. On top of that, I think they can give people a false sense of security if not used properly.

                    I just could go on and on. I feel that many folks are so turned off by Trump’s public persona, tweets, abrasive temperament, etc., However, I can say this, they are not clearly looking at and evaluating many other issues at hand.

                    They are also not taking seriously some of the problems associated with Mr. Biden which in the long term could be even more concerning.

                    It’s easy to label folks as “fascists” or aligned with fascists without digging beneath the surface.

                    Alright, I’ve said my piece and need to get off this internet. Thanks for listening.

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                    1. Nominees are not bound to follow party platforms. Joe Biden has a long history of being a centrist. He will govern as a centrist.

                      Every time a Democrat is elected, Republicans scream “He’s going to turn the country into a socialist state!”. It didn’t happen with Clinton. It didn’t happen with Obama. It won’t happen with Biden. Calm down.

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  3. That being said, I’ve felt that the rhetoric coming from the Democrats has been just as divisive and poisonous as well.

    Please give me three examples of rhetoric that you think is just as divisive and poisonous as Trump’s constant stream othering, and racist dog whistling? Seriously here. What has been coming from Democrats that you see as being just as bad, because I’m completely dumbfounded that anyone would be able to make this comment with a straight face.

    I really hate the soaring national debt–I don’t think either party has the guts to get that under control, though.

    Again, with something I can’t believe that somebody would say with a straight face. Republicans are pretty much the party of borrow and spend, and have historically racked up much of the debt. If you really believe this I would ask that you read Jonathon Pearce’s post about Quote of the Day: Republicans and the Economy.

    Up until the Covid-19 crisis, record unemployment across the board, especially for minorities

    A crisis that he helped exacerbate!

    He killed the Iranian general and terrorist Soleimani.

    Because extrajudicial killings of government officials is such a good idea. If Russia did this to an American general you’d expect war, but apparently it’s okay if American’s do it to others.

    Regardless if one is upset over the circumstances of Amy Coney Barrett, I don’t think anyone can say she isn’t immensely qualified.

    No, I don’t think she’s qualified. I think she bungled a real softball question about the first amendment, and it’s follow up. I think the interviews should have stopped there and the position left vacant.

    The deciding factor has more to do with what I’ve seen transpire with the Democrats and the mainstream media. To put it in the kindest terms, I have not been impressed…at all.

    Some examples might be helpful to understand what you’re talking about.

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    1. From what I can observe, most of the mainstream media leans very heavily to the left. As far as I can see, they are pretty much an arm of the democratic party, perhaps not completely, but close.

      Objective reporting has become dead on arrival. I honestly don’t think that I’ve seen one positive news story on CNN or MSNBC relating to any of Trump’s accomplishments. His followers are portrayed as these right-wing racist, xenophobic maniacs. They will highlight some of the most extreme examples. For the most part, forget about interviewing the physician or attorney who may have voted for Trump, or the conservative folks volunteering down at the local soup kitchen or homeless shelter.

      Many conservative/libertarian people and commentators have comments deleted from Twitter or other social media. Bill Maher, by no means a conservative has addressed this disturbing trend. Of course, all this heavily shapes public opinion and perception over time.

      I actually blame much of the unrest in the streets based on the media as well as the left’s insistence that our society is systemically racist. If I was a young person, naively absorbing and buying into all this, living in the inner city, I would probably be enraged also. When people see themselves as victims, of course, they are going to lash out.

      But, Christians need to put feet to our prayers and take action. Volunteer with the disenfranchised, work with refugees and immigrants. Reach out to these angry young kids. Show up at the food bank. whatever we can do.

      My opinion, Gary. I figured you wouldn’t mind if I commented as long as I stayed away from spiritual issues. But, feel free to delete my comments if I’m wrong about this. It’s your blog after all. Blessings. 🙂

      Becky.

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      1. From what I can observe, most of the mainstream media leans very heavily to the left.

        That may be the case, but I rarely get my news from the mainstream TV media. I tend to get my news from sources like NPR, CBC, the BBC, and ABC News Australia. All of these are highly reliable sources that tend to be only slightly biased towards the left. Since the American political spectrum is highly skewed to the right this probably makes even these sources appear to be far left media.

        The simple reality is that the far left doesn’t exist in America, at least not with any real power. Nobody in power is calling for the government to seize the means of production, or for workers to have some ownership of the means of production. What the left is calling for is what are mainstream ideas in pretty much every other industrialized country in the world, and even that’s treated like Communism. The far right, however, has plenty of support. Bitch and moan about the media all you about “the left” want when the reality is that America’s political system highly favors the right, and there’s no room at the big table for even people who are centre-left.

        As far as I can see, they are pretty much an arm of the democratic party, perhaps not completely, but close.

        This is a joke, right? Compared to Fox News – the propaganda arm of the Republican Party, although they do have a few journalists with some integrity.

        I honestly don’t think that I’ve seen one positive news story on CNN or MSNBC relating to any of Trump’s accomplishments.

        That’s because it’s actually hard to list objectively good accomplishments of the Trump administration. There are really only two things I would say are real positive accomplishments of his administration that stand out to me:
        At least he tried to negotiate with the DPRK, Although I consider it a failure, he did manage to tone down the rhetoric and the missile testing.
        He seems to recognize that China represents a threat, although he only seems to see the economic threat. His tariffs may have helped bring some manufacturing back to the US, but I’m unconvinced. China is still the worlds largest consumer of surveillance equipment, and a massive abuser of human rights.

        As far as the rest of what he’s done, I consider it a dumpster fire, and I regard him as unarguably the worst President in US history. Let’s remember that this is the administration that gassed peaceful protestors so that Trump could get a photo op in front of a church holding a Bible, and has separated children from their parents because they crossed some arbitrary line in the sand in a way he didn’t like.

        Many conservative/libertarian people and commentators have comments deleted from Twitter or other social media

        Twitter is a privately owned entity, and you have no right to use them as a platform for your own expression. Anything you say that they don’t like they are well within their rights to delete and remove. If you don’t like this policy, find another platform or go create your own. You simply do not have the right to use other people’s property to amplify your speech. Conservatives talk all the time about the free market of ideas. If conservative ideas are so popular then somebody should be able to create a platform for these ides and it should be able to compete with other social media companies. The fact that this doesn’t happen tells me that either:
        A. Conservative ideas simply aren’t popular
        B. Conservatives are good at talking, but don’t like to do the hard work.
        I tend to lean towards A.

        I actually blame much of the unrest in the streets based on the media as well as the left’s insistence that our society is systemically racist

        Systemic racism is real, whether you accept it or not. Systemic racism is not individual bigotry, and one can participate in system racism without being a bigot. Rather it is says that the outcomes of the system are racially disparate, usually because of artificial barriers that exist. If you think otherwise you need to explain why:
        Blacks driver are disproportionately stopped by police, and their vehicles searched, even though they find less contraband?
        Black men are more likely to be arrested for possession while the usage rate for drugs is similar between whites and blacks.
        Blacks are disproportionally poor compared to whites and even many other minority

        Working with the disenfranchised isn’t going to solve the problems of systemic racism. All it does it help them overcome the problems. Until society recognizes the problems, and works to actually remove the barriers to equal outcomes, the problems will continue to exist.

        But, feel free to delete my comments if I’m wrong about this.

        I’ve only known Gary to delete comments from one particularly abusive person, and that was after months of abusing Gary’s good nature.

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        1. Hi, Herald, I think you will enjoy this dialogue between the conservative Black speaker, Candace Owens, and her guest discussing the impact of systemic racism. Candace does not feel this is a strong factor in the problems and issues of the African American community today. Her guest a BLM representative disagrees.

          I mean there is a difference of opinion even among people of color themselves. I don’t know that I’m completely sorting it all out anytime soon. 🙂

          https://www.prageru.com/video/does-systemic-racism-exist/

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          1. I’m really not interested in seeing anything coming from PragerU anymore. I simply do not have the hours in my life to waste listen to them, as they’re famous for pumping out propaganda, are full of misinformation, and designed to brainwash their audience. Seriously, propaganda really isn’t my thing, and I have no interest in trying to respond to it. Find a more reputable source, that isn’t interested in brainwashing people with disinformation, and I’ll certainly consider it.

            My suggestion to you is that if you’re watching PragerU videos that you do so for entertainment purposes only, and don’t take their message seriously. You’re being lied to pretty much every single time you watch one of their videos.

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