Another Christian Singer Becomes an Atheist

Jonathan Steingard, singer for Christian rock band Hawk Nelson, says he no longer believes in God.

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6 thoughts on “Another Christian Singer Becomes an Atheist

  1. It’s gratifying to hear that someone else has discovered that all is not as it seems in the Christian world. However, for me, I find the timing of his “public announcement” rather contrived. One can’t help but wonder how much longer he would have kept his “secret” if the band were still freely performing.

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    1. I have heard it said that there are a significant number of pastors/priests who have become atheists but continue in their role as a member of the clergy. Why? Answer: They have no training to do anything else and they need an income! It wouldn’t surprise me if the issue of finances didn’t play a role with the timing of this man’s announcement of his deconversion.

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  2. Reasons I should doubt the truth of Christianity because others lose their faith: ZERO.

    https://www.epm.org/blog/2019/Aug/21/famous-christians-losing-faith

    https://www.lightworkers.com/kanye-west-declares-that-hes-a-born-again-christian/

    https://www.premierchristianity.com/Past-Issues/2016/March-2016/Belieber-How-Justin-Bieber-s-Christian-Faith-got-Reborn

    This guy was anti-Jesus in the lyrics of my youth, not so now: http://www.jeffcagwin.com/2011/07/kowalczyk-comes-to-christ.html

    https://joninbetween.blogspot.com/2014/01/ed-kowalczyk-and-scott-stapp-angels-on.html

    Who knows where these guys are now? Where they will be?

    But the facts don’t change: 6 independent sources for the empty tomb, more for the Resurrection as a whole etc etc.
    If you just have two independent sources for an event in ancient history, it’s usually taken as confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt.
    If we just had Mark and Paul, we would be on good ground to believe that Jesus rose.

    We have far more.

    If these guys don’t realise that, that changes nothing.
    And I’m not a famous Christian or anything, but I grew up in the Church, and the Truth of Jesus as Lrod and Saviour resonates more than ever.

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    1. So if we have two ancient sources that say that Caesar Augustus was seen alive again after his death and that he performed a supernatural feat, we should believe them???

      I have some land in the Everglades to sell you, Liam.

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    2. There is abundant evidence that people in the first century were incredibly superstitious and incredibly gullible, even in the Bible itself:

      Even in Acts, we get an idea of just how gullible people could be. Surviving a snake bite was evidently enough for the inhabitants of Malta to believe that Paul himself was a god (28:6). And Paul and his comrade Barnabas had to go to some lengths to convince the Lycaonians of Lystra that they were not deities. For the locals immediately sought to sacrifice to them as manifestations of Hermes and Zeus, simply because a man with bad feet stood up (14:8-18). These stories show how ready people were to believe that gods can take on human form and walk among them, and that a simple show was sufficient to convince them that mere men were such divine beings. And this evidence is in the bible itself.

      Beyond the bible, the historian Josephus supplies some insights. Writing toward the end of the first century, himself an eye-witness of the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D, he tells us that the region was filled with “cheats and deceivers claiming divine inspiration” (Jewish War, 2.259-60; Jewish Antiquities, 20.167), entrancing the masses and leading them like sheep, usually to their doom. The most successful of these “tricksters” appears to be “the Egyptian” who led a flock of 30,000 believers around Palestine (Jewish War, 2.261-2; Paul is mistaken for him by a Roman officer in Acts 21:38). This fellow even claimed he could topple the walls of Jerusalem with a single word (Jewish Antiquities, 20.170), yet it took a massacre at the hands of Roman troops to finally instill doubt in his followers.

      Twenty years later, a common weaver named Jonathan would attract a mob of the poor and needy, promising to show them many signs and portents (Jewish War, 7.437-8). Again, it took military intervention to disband the movement. Josephus also names a certain Theudas, another “trickster” who gathered an impressive following in Cyrene around 46 A.D., claiming he was a prophet and could part the river Jordan (Jewish Antiquities, 20.97). This could be the same Theudas mentioned in Acts 5:36. Stories like these also remind us of the faithful following that Simon was reported to have had in Acts 8:9-11, again showing how easy it was to make people believe you had “the power of god” at your disposal. Jesus was not unique in that respect.

      Miracles were also a dime a dozen in this era. The biographer Plutarch, a contemporary of Josephus, engages in a lengthy digression to prove that a statue of Tyche did not really speak in the early Republic (Life of Coriolanus 37.3). He claims it must have been a hallucination inspired by the deep religious faith of the onlookers, since there were, he says, too many reliable witnesses to dismiss the story as an invention (38.1-3). He even digresses further to explain why other miracles such as weeping or bleeding–even moaning–statues could be explained as natural phenomena, showing a modest but refreshing degree of skeptical reasoning that would make the Amazing Randi proud. What is notable is not that Plutarch proves himself to have some good sense, but that he felt it was necessary to make such an argument at all. Clearly, such miracles were still reported and believed in his own time. I find this to be a particularly interesting passage, since we have thousands of believers flocking to weeping and bleeding statues even today. Certainly the pagan gods must also exist if they could make their statues weep and bleed as well!

      Miraculous healings were also commonplace. Suetonius, another biographer writing a generation after Plutarch, reports that even the emperor Vespasian once cured the blind and lame (Life of Vespasian 7.13; this “power” being attributed to the god Serapis–incidentally the Egyptian counterpart to Asclepius; cf. also Tacitus, Histories 4.81).

      Source: https://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/kooks.html

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