Do Christians have Any Good Evidence that Jesus is the Creator?

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Christians can appeal to the orderliness of the universe (the laws of physics) as evidence for a generic creator.  Christians can appeal to alleged eyewitness testimony of his alleged post-execution appearances.  But what evidence do Christians have that the first century peasant, Jesus of Nazareth, is the Creator and Almighty King of the universe???

Christians assume that evidence for a generic creator god is automatically evidence for their god.  Christians assume that just because a group of first century peasants and one rabbi believed that a dead person had appeared to them—in some fashion—that this is good evidence that this person is the almighty, all-knowing, creator and ruler of the universe.

Why???

I personally think that the miracle of the Buddha, causing a water buffalo to speak in a human language for half an hour in front of a group of eyewitnesses, is much more impressive than alleged appearances of a dead guy.  Every culture on the planet has stories of the appearances of dead people!

The alleged post-death appearances of Jesus are not good evidence that he is the Creator.  At best, it is evidence that rare violations of the laws of nature do occur.  At worst, it demonstrates just how gullible religious people are, in the first century…and today!

 

 

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7 thoughts on “Do Christians have Any Good Evidence that Jesus is the Creator?

  1. Oh wow – first of all, Jesus, God the Son prayed to God the Father. One God, Three Persons – the whole reason we have the concept of a “person” grew out of the debates around the nature of the Trinity.

    And again, since Jesus claimed equality with God (calling Himself Lord of the Sabbath, claiming that He was greater than the Temple, claiming to be able to forgive sins, claiming to judge the world – these are all things only God could and would do, in the Jewish understanding. Also: Mark has Him walking on water, something only God can do – Job 9:8), if you have any understanding about which God He was talking it would answer your questions.

    There was only ONE God in the many flavours of 2nd-Temple Judaism. Whichever strand you want to talk about, they were fiercely monotheistic. Therefore, anyone claiming that they were God in that context, it’s very clear which God they are referring to. And Jesus was claiming to be equal with the one and only God. Since he rose from the dead in history, we know that the God of Israel is the only God. It’s really simple.
    Also: man, the other faiths work even without the miracles. Buddha didn’t need to make anything speak to still be the Buddha. But without the Resurrection, Jesus is not Who He claimed to be.

    And again – the earliest accounts of Buddha are 500 years after he was alive. Jesus has accounts within 20 years of His ascension (Paul), more before AD 70 (James and Hebrews) 3 accounts confirming each other before AD 80 (cf Luke confirming that Mark’s narrative is correct) and more. Then we have the extra biblical witness of Tacitus and Josephus, and Suetonius.

    Plus all the church fathers, the Didache and Shepherd of Hermas.

    Anyway, sources multiply.

    Buddha doesn’t compare to Jesus with regards to historicity. Sorry.

    (Here’s my 250 words,even though you cannot give evidence that without the summary they are false: By the criteria of historical inquiry the New Testament proves reliable. We can therefore trust what it tells us about Jesus. He affirmed the authority of the Jewish Scriptures. He claimed to be God in monotheistic second temple Judaism, and rose from the dead validating that claim. Therefore, we know that God exists, Who that God is and what He expects from us.

    63 words. I guess this is valid then!

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    1. And again, since Jesus claimed equality with God (calling Himself Lord of the Sabbath, claiming that He was greater than the Temple, claiming to be able to forgive sins, claiming to judge the world – these are all things only God could and would do, in the Jewish understanding. Also: Mark has Him walking on water, something only God can do – Job 9:8), if you have any understanding about which God He was talking it would answer your questions.

      How do you know that Jesus said any of these things? The majority of experts do not believe that the authors of these books were eyewitnesses or the associates of eyewitnesses. For all we know, Jesus simply claimed to be the messiah—a man sent from God to usher in the New Kingdom.

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    2. And again – the earliest accounts of Buddha are 500 years after he was alive. Jesus has accounts within 20 years of His ascension (Paul), more before AD 70 (James and Hebrews) 3 accounts confirming each other before AD 80 (cf Luke confirming that Mark’s narrative is correct) and more. Then we have the extra biblical witness of Tacitus and Josephus, and Suetonius. Plus all the church fathers, the Didache and Shepherd of Hermas. Anyway, sources multiply.

      I am not questioning the existence of Jesus. He lived, he was an apocalyptic preacher, he had a reputation as a miracle worker and healer, he got on the wrong side of the Jewish authorities, he was crucified by the Romans, and shortly after his death some of his believers sincerely believed that he appeared to them.

      All the rest of the Jesus Story could be theological fiction.

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    3. By the criteria of historical inquiry the New Testament proves reliable. We can therefore trust what it tells us about Jesus. He affirmed the authority of the Jewish Scriptures. He claimed to be God in monotheistic second temple Judaism, and rose from the dead validating that claim. Therefore, we know that God exists, Who that God is and what He expects from us.

      That is not what the majority of historians say, Liam. You can continue to parrot this fundamentalist Christian talking point all you want but it is a religious bias, not fact.

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