Bombshell: Daniel did not Write the Book of Daniel

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The book of Daniel

Its date and author. Interpretation of the
dreams, visions and end of the world.
 


 

Author and date of the book:

bullet Conservative Christians generally believe that the book was written by Daniel himself in the 6th century BCE. This is confirmed in a number of verses. e.g.

bullet Daniel 7:1: “Then he wrote down the dream. and here his account begins.
bullet Daniel 7:28: “…as for me, Daniel, my thoughts dismayed me greatly….”
bullet Daniel 8:1: “…a vision appeared to me, Daniel, following my earlier vision.”
bullet Daniel 9:2: “I, Daniel, was reading the scriptures…”
bullet Daniel 10:2: “At that time I, Daniel, mourned for thee whole weeks…”
bullet Daniel 12:5: “I, Daniel, looked and saw two others standing…”
 

Jesus verified that the book was written by Daniel. In Matthew 24:15, he states “So, when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ of which the prophet Daniel spoke, standing in the holy place…then those who are in  Judea must take to the hills.

The early Christian church generally accepted the authorship of Daniel in the 6th century BCE without question. Essentially all Fundamentalist and other Evangelical Christians believe the same today.
 

bullet Since the 19th century, most Old Testament scholars have dated the Book of Daniel to the 2nd century BCE. Liberal Christians generally accept this dating and believe that the book was really written during the Maccabean revolt against the Greek occupying forces in 168-164 BCE. They regard the book as pseudepigraphic – written by an anonymous author or authors, and attributed to Daniel. They conclude this for a number of reasons:

bullet The text contains a number of Greek words; yet the Greek occupation of the area did not occur until the 4th century BCE.
bullet One of the musical instruments mentioned in Daniel 3:5 and in subsequent passages did not exist until developed in 2nd century BCE Greece.
bullet Daniel 1:4 refers to the “Chaldeans” as a priestly class in Babylon. This term did not attain this meaning until much later than the 6th century.
bullet About 180 BCE, Jeshua ben Sira listed the heroes of the Jewish faith, including “Enoch, Noah and Abraham through to Nehemiah;” Daniel is not mentioned – presumably because Jeshua is unaware of him. This would indicate that the book of Daniel was written after that time.
bullet Chapter 12 discusses the dead being resurrected, judged, and taken to either heaven and hell. At the time of Daniel, the Jews believed that all persons went to Sheol after death. The concept of heaven and hell was introduced centuries later by the Greeks. It did not appear in Israel until the time of the Maccabean revolt.
bullet Daniel 11:31 (and elsewhere) refers to “the abominable thing that causes desolation.” This appears to refer to the erection of a statue of Zeus in the Jerusalem temple in 167 BCE, and would indicate that the book was written later than that date.
bullet Prior to Daniel 11:40, the author(s) has been recording past events under the Babylonian, Median, Persian and Greek empires. In Daniel 11:40-45, he really attempts to predict the future. He prophesizes that a king of the south (of the Ptolemaic dynasty) will attack the Greeks in Judea, under Antiochus. The Greeks will win, will lay spoil to all of northeast Africa, and return to Judea where Antiochus will die. The end of history will then occur. The author(s) appeared to be a poor psychic because none of these events actually happened. Antiochus did die in 164 BCE, but it was in Persia. Thus, the book was apparently completed before 164.
 

Summary: Many liberal Christians believe that the Book of Daniel is a work of fiction. Fables and myths about a non-existent ancient hero, Daniel’s, were passed down orally for centuries, and then finally written down by an unknown author(s), sometime between 167 and 164 BCE. At the end of the book, the author(s) then unsuccessfully attempted to predict the future.

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7 thoughts on “Bombshell: Daniel did not Write the Book of Daniel

  1. I agree, Nan. Most will not but I am sure you will agree, we must continue planting the seed of Truth with the hope that future generations will see the Bible for what it is: a collection of national folktales mixed with the superstitions of scientifically ignorant peoples.

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  2. I used to chew up and spit ouit know nothingss like you on message boares every day, none of your arguments at of any consequence, I could beat them esaily but they are av wate ofg mytime, you brought down thelintellectual level of my board,

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  3. Gary, it matters not what some “liberal Christians” believe. “most Old Testament scholars have dated the Book of Daniel to the 2nd century”. Most?? That is a fabrication. Every one of the items you state above have been addressed if you care to fully research it. You state: Bombshell…Daniel didnt write the Book of Daniel, as if you (or anyone else) can really show that to be true. You didnt. I'm sorry that you now claim to not be a Christian, and this entire site is your attempt (for whatever reason) to justify that even though everything presented has been addressed, answered, or refuted.

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  4. Mormons scholars believe that they can refute (in their minds) every claim against their beliefs. Muslim scholars believe the same about their belief system. If you don't believe me, go to some of their websites. There is not one claim against Mormonism that Mormons scholars will throw up their hands and say, “Wow. You got us on that one!” And ditto for Muslims.

    When it comes to supernatural belief systems there are ALWAYS harmonizations for every alleged discrepancy and error because the supernatural has no limitations.

    So the critical issue is not whether or not scholars of a particular supernatural belief system believe that they can refute/rebut all criticisms and accusations against their belief system but rather whether their rebuttals are strong enough to overcome the educated person's demand for extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims.

    Christians see their evidence as meeting that standard. Muslims believe that their evidence meets that standard, and so do the Mormons. What's funny is that if you ask a Muslim if the Christian supernatural claims are believable, they say no. Ask the Christian if the Muslim supernatural claims are true and they say no.

    To me that demonstrates that to an objective, unbiased person both Christian and Muslim supernatural claims do NOT meet the standard of “extraordinary” evidence.

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