Heaven is for Robots


Moderate Christian

…I along with many others have concluded that the Bible itself, (Hebrew or NT) makes no claims of an eternal place of torment.

I know eternal conscious torment or “ECT” is the standard Christian dogma, but there is much evidence to discount it. And this is in line with Judaism, the forerunner of Christianity, which never imagined an eternal place of torment.

Now I am not saying there isn’t any notion of “hell” or “judgment” within the bible or Rabbinic literature. But there is very little evidence to support a place of eternal conscious torment.  So what is really offered is the hope and gift of eternal life, as opposed to experiencing the wages of sin which is judgment and the finality of death.

Gary

Just how wonderful is “heaven”?

If the Bible is true, there is no sin in heaven. Everything and everyone is perfect. What does that mean: It means that there is no free will in heaven. There is no freedom of thought in heaven. You will act perfectly. You will think perfectly. You will have no choice in the matter. You will not have the ability to think for yourself.

You will be a robot. Forever. Without end.

No thanks.

I don’t want to exist as a robot. 

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2 thoughts on “Heaven is for Robots

  1. “Corey” sent the following in an email to me. I don't know why he doesn't leave comments here on the blog, but I thought my other readers would be interested in Corey's response to the above post:

    Gary:

    Just how wonderful is “heaven”?

    “If the Bible is true, there is no sin in heaven. Everything and everyone is perfect. What does that mean: It means that there is no free will in heaven.”

    Not exactly, it could as easily mean that the people in heaven mature to a point of choosing to be moral and civil because they grasp the benefits of not being harmful to others. But, I can appreciate your wanting to mock them for this, because you enjoyed accusing fundamentalist religion for its violence. So, no matter which way they go, you will mock them. But, this just exposes you as impossible to please, Gary. Next you will tell us that people who choose to not do drugs and to not destroy themselves suffer from a lack of free will too.

    “There is no freedom of thought in heaven.”

    Or, maybe there is and people will choose to think more intelligent thoughts in heaven than they think down here where virtually every imagination of the heart of people is wicked continually. Just imagine how functional our world could be if people simply learned to think in a more constructive way. As things stand, the way people think now has made a pretty enormous mess out of our planet.

    “You will act perfectly. You will think perfectly. You will have no choice in the matter.”

    Or, maybe your choice will be liberated like never before. Consider that imperfect thinking cripples the mind by keeping certain aspects of the truth out of reach. But, perfect thinking provides the mind with a path to truth and brings more clarity to choice and smarter choices at that.

    “You will not have the ability to think for yourself.”

    Wrong again, Gary, perfect thinking increases the ability to think to its maximum potential. Imperfect thinking, like you desire to wallar in, leads people to remain ignorant of the truths that could help them make better choices for themselves. The silliness you are pushing here is you think you can out think a perfect thinker with rampant imperfection of thought riddling your brain. If your goal here is to openly mock reason, you are doing a great job of that.

    “You will be a robot. Forever. Without end.”

    Nonsense! Robots are not perfect thinkers, they are more like dispationate thinkers. This does not guarantee that they do not make mistakes when thinking/computing. Sorry, but you walked yourself into a bad comparison there.

    Corey…

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  2. Question: Can someone in heaven choose to disobey God or not?

    If they cannot choose to disobey, they are robots by definition. Their behavior has been programmed. They do not have a free will, regardless of your attempts at linguistic gymnastics.

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