Although “Gary” claims that he “once was a member of your cult,” it is unclear what he actually understood historical biblical Christianity. In determining whether or not Christianity is true, the first question to be answered is, does God exist? An interesting short video I just saw is helpful on that question. “Believe in God in 5 Minutes (Scientific Proof)”:
This is an important question to answer. We know that from nothing, nothing comes – so how did everything which exists come from nothing in the beginning? (Darwinism). Now that is an appeal to magic!
We believe that the evidence shows that God exists and has revealed Himself in history, especially in the incarnation of Jesus Christ. This is confirmed by the physical resurrection of Jesus. There are many proofs for the resurrection of Jesus, which I will not go into here, but are available to anyone who wants to examine them. But how do we respond to Gary’s claims of Christianity being a magical faith?
I do appreciate “Gary’s” expressed concern that we might be deceived. Unfortunately he doesn’t offer any rational reason or evidence to support his claim. He might do well to read Geisler and Turek’s book, I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist and then either debunk or embrace the evidence presented here.
Thank you for your reply to my comment. I listened to the video. It is very interesting. However, it only addresses the issue of whether or not there is evidence for a Creator, not WHO that Creator is. This is one of the biggest assumptions in the Christian belief system: The evidence for a God is evidence for the Christian god. There may very well be a Creator. The constant laws of the universe do appear to point to some type of Creator, but to jump to the conclusion that this Creator is Yahweh and Jesus is based on what?
You state that the proof that Jesus is the Creator God is his alleged resurrection and that there is good evidence that this supernatural event happened. I would challenge you on that assertion. The only evidence that Christians have for the Resurrection is very, very weak: the accounts in four anonymous books, written decades after the alleged event, in far away lands, and, the testimony of one vision-prone Jewish rabbi who never says he saw a resurrected BODY. That’s it. The rest of the “evidence” that Christians assert are simply assumptions and hearsay.
For instance, just because people are willing to die for a belief is not proof that the belief is true. We have ZERO evidence that any alleged eyewitness to the resurrection of Jesus was executed for refusing to recant his eyewitness testimony of the resurrection. For all we know they were all executed just for being a new religious sect. Many people of religious minorities and sects have been killed through the ages. That does not prove their beliefs were true.
So why do modern, educated, 21st century people believe four anonymous first century accounts, filled with inconsistencies, and the word of one wild-eyed rabbi? Let me give you an example of why I think that believing based on this weak evidence is unreasonable.
If I told you the following story, would you believe it:
Four books have been found that tell the story of a flying milk cow living in Uganda 60 years ago. The stories say that one day a group of eleven men were in a farmer’s pasture in central Uganda when one of the milk cows began to speak to them. The cow told the men that she was God, Ruler of Heaven and Earth. After finishing speaking, the cow levitated 20 feet off of the ground, then shot off into the sunset with the speed of a jet fighter plane.
These four books are anonymous; written in French; and appear to have been written in Italy approximately 30 years ago.
The eleven men told their story to villagers in the nearby villages. Many people believed and became followers of the Cow. Belief in the flying, talking cow spread throughout Uganda and even to surrounding countries. Many believed.
Three years later, a Jewish rabbi, traveling on a highway to Kenya, says that he was stopped by a bright light which blinded him. The bright light said that it was the Cow. The Cow told the rabbi that she wanted him to be her missionary to the world, spreading her message of Cowness.
This converted rabbi wrote a letter to a group of Cow believers in Greece, stating that the Cow appeared to 500 Ugandan villagers at once, and that if they didn’t believe him, they could travel to Uganda to ask them themselves, as most are still alive.
Thousands of Flying Cow believers have been persecuted for their belief in Her Cowness, some have even been executed.
Based on this “evidence”, do you believe that this Ugandan milk cow is the Creator of the Universe??
Now, I’m sure that my milk cow scenario seems absolutely ridiculous to Christians, but your dead man reanimation story and the weak evidence you use to justify your belief in this alleged supernatural first century event seems just as ridiculous to us as skeptics.