One of the most common arguments that fundamentalist Christians use with skeptics of the Bible is to say, “You cannot prove that God does not exist”. And I agree with them. I don’t think that it is possible to disprove the existence of God anymore than you can disprove the existence of Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.
Yes, you read that correctly. You cannot disprove the existence of Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny just as atheists cannot disprove the existence of God. But just because there is zero evidence to disprove the existence of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, does that therefore mean that they must exist??
I am neither a believer nor am I an atheist. I consider myself a deist. I believe that there probably was or is a Creator God who created the original matter from which the universe developed into what we see today. I can’t prove it. I can’t give you any solid evidence for my belief in a Creator God. It is just a hunch. I belief in the Creator God…by faith.
Yahweh
But one thing I can prove is that the Christian god, Yahweh (otherwise known as God the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) does not exist. He is a fraud. He is an invention of ignorant, superstitious, nomadic Canaanites wandering the deserts of the Middle East thousands of years ago, long before “Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob”. Archaeological evidence proves that the first half of the Old Testament is nothing but Hebrew fables. And if Yahweh and his “deeds” in the Old Testament are nothing but superstitious fables, then Jesus’ claim (at least according to the author of the Gospel of John) to be the Son of Yahweh, and even to be Yahweh himself is false! Jesus made a mistake. Jesus made a whopper of a mistake! Therefore, by Jesus’ own definition of a perfect, all-knowing God, Jesus was not God, just a good, but very confused man.
So, if you believe that you have proof that the Christian god Yahweh does indeed exist, I am all ears.
Escaping Christian Fundamentalism 
Hi Gary,
If you believe (by “hunch” or faith) that there was or is a Creator God, then you contradict your requirement of scientific proof for what is to be believed. Science says there is no God. For sure, science cannot prove that God does not exist, but science has proven that there is a natural explanation for everything; has it not?
So, to be consistent, you can't claim to believe in anything not proven by science – including God.
Dave Schumacher
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Hi Dave,
I think you have misunderstood my beliefs.
I cannot prove a lot of things with scientific evidence. I cannot prove that my wife really loves me, for instance. It is a matter of faith. My point is that I do NOT believe that the existence of God can be proven with anything OTHER THAN faith; it cannot be proven by science. I can't prove that the Creator God exists and you can't prove that the Christian god exists.
However, I can prove with scientific evidence that the Christian god made mistakes. He made a lot of mistakes. So by his own standard, he can not be God, because he claims that the one true God is perfect. The Christian god is not perfect, therefore he does not exist or he is a liar. I choose to believe the former.
Science does NOT say that there is no God, because a belief in the existence of a supernatural Being cannot be examined by scientific methods. It is the realm of theology. Science cannot nor does it try to answer theological questions.
However, Science can examine claims made by religious groups when they take their god out of the spiritual/supernatural realm and claim that their god has interacted with the physical universe in real space and time.
For instance, if a particular religious group claims that their god built a massive pyramid, as tall as a modern 20 story building, on the island of Crete, in a very specific location on that island, in the year 843 B.C., then there had better be at least a couple of archaeological pieces of evidence of this pyramid, don't you think. If the location is question shows zero evidence of any such structure, that is adequate evidence to refute the claim of this religious group regarding their god having built a great pyramid? Do you agree?
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Not necessarily. If something is true – it is true regardless of the existence of apparent contrary evidence, or lack of corroborating evidence. If something is true – it's true – period.
Dave Schumacher
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How do you know that your belief is true?
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Science says there is no God
“Science” does not make this claim … it merely states science has not found any evidence to support the hypothesis of supernatural beings … or “god(s)”.
Science is always open to new evidence and would be happy to examine any that “might” be suggestive of the existence of such supernatural beings … as science is provisional based on the available evidence. I don't think I'd be overstating how excited scientists would be to discover such evidence if it were to exist – but the fact is, many scientific disciplines have tried to “prove” the mortal aspect of many biblical events … and FAILED. It may one day come to pass that the key evidence will be found … but as of today they can only assert that the evidence is generally non-existent.
What one chooses to extrapolate from that lack of evidence is solely up to each individual – some say god(s) transcends the mortal plane and thus we would recognize the evidence if it was staring us in the face – others see … well … nothing … no evidence and those INDIVIDUALS choose to see that as “proof enough” that there is no god(s). But those claims have no scientific authority either.
I, for one, have seen enough of … well … nothing … to make my “choice” clear, Gary “sees” it a little bit different, and Dave, you sir, see something different still … and not one of us can go to the scientific “well” for a resolute answer … we just have to go on our gut and our interpretation of the existing evidence.
peace 🙂
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